In light of some more recent findings, I’d like to come back to this topic and expand a little on some new information. It would seem that J2b-PH1602>PH502>Y40852>Y40288 has some surprisingly widespread presence in southeastern Serbia starting from around the 6th century AD, though it will surely end up having a lower TMRCA once more samples are on YFull.
The parallel branch the Hoti from Lipljan and the Serb from Kraljevo belong to, J-A30137 (formed 1750 ybp, TMRCA 900 ybp), may point to an origin in Montenegro. The Serb is allegedly originally from near Nikšić in Montenegro.
What makes this more interesting is that many of the Serbian families under J-Y40288 seem to have origins in Kosovo – one specifically from Prizren. That wouldn’t mean much to me otherwise if not for one of the Serbs surnames and patron saint matching a quite large Serbo-Macedonian family from the village of Vratnica, near Tetovo. That family from Vratnica says that their own origin is from the Luma region in modern Albania. They haven’t been tested yet, but it’s a tempting possibility to assume that they are also positive for J-Y40852 (or even >Y40288), in which case we should consider the heart of our shared ancestry to be somewhere between Kosovo and northwestern Albania.
The only other man even remotely relevant to this ancient family of ours in the Rrenjet database is
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Is it known whether he is negative for any downstream branches or is it simply the nature of a more shallow test that didn’t allow for a more precise branch? It could be an interesting turn of events if he also happened to be under J-Y40852, as he doesn’t seem to be geographically far away from Luma. Is a more exact place of origin known? Or any other details that could be relevant to unraveling this puzzle?